TOPIC: Daughter refusing to see mother and go to school

Daughter refusing to see mother and go to school 8 months 4 weeks ago #95813

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That’s quite a unique way of dealing with it... Well done for getting this far.

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Daughter refusing to see mother and go to school 8 months 4 weeks ago #95830

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Thanks, might be unique in family courts but in criminal courts you get your thugs going in in track suits criminal history as long as their arm, they know the law and don't care. Driving offences so many points thry should be banned yet thry still on the road
Yet a law abiding citizen makes a mistake the judge goes to town on them walks all over them. Doesn't make sence seems so unfair
So why can't you do things differently in family courts? What's worst that could happen? We don't get to see our kids anyway most of the time even with a court in place.
I now go to court as me and I honestly feel I get more respect as a individual. Unlike in past I was just another man in a suit. Maybe judge notices more and remembers more like o it's Mr workman. Not o let's have a quick scan over the documents to remind me of the case. I dunno I just feel much more visible
Even in business when Iv been interviewing people for jobs, Iv chose the guy who's come in his scruffs, he's real. Not the guy who's come to try to impress me wearing a suit.
I dunno lol things are going great apart from my 20 year old son.. But that's another topic haha

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Daughter refusing to see mother and go to school 8 months 4 weeks ago #95838

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I don't think that's the case. You're probably in a much stronger position than when your daughter was a baby. Protracted proceedings often mean the judges don't mess about.

From what you've said, you have an interim Child Arrangements Order for your daughter to live with you and a Prohibited Steps Order to prevent the mother taking her from your care.

You might have to provide paperwork at some point if the court orders it.

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Daughter refusing to see mother and go to school 8 months 4 weeks ago #95845

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I know I'm in a much stronger position it's excellent. daughter has still got a solicitor and guardian due to past court cases and the lies the ex told about me and I walked out of court.
After years of being wronged and courts acting oblivious to the games women play you get to a point were you have no respect or anything for judges or evil ex's.
And self representation is better cos these solicitors can't say o you can't say this or that. I say what I want to the judge, obviously Im not rude or swear etc but I give them facts even the most ignorant person couldn't deny.

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Daughter refusing to see mother and go to school 8 months 4 weeks ago #95850

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I agree that acting as a litigant in person can allow the judge to hear directly from you rather than a solicitor but I would advise not getting too cocky as you still need to act in a respectful manner and you don't want to shoot yourself in the foot.

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Daughter refusing to see mother and go to school 8 months 3 weeks ago #95857

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Yes I act nice but I don't act worried and in the same way I did in the past especially when I had a solicitor. I'd walk in worried.
Now I walk in like I'm going to have a chat with another "normal" person or business situation.
It's more of a level playing field now. In past I wasn't even on the field.

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Daughter refusing to see mother and go to school 8 months 3 weeks ago #95871

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There are a lot of benefits to self repping and clearly being in a stronger position helps too!

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Daughter refusing to see mother and go to school 8 months 3 weeks ago #95888

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However good your solicitor is (and I had a good one years ago), they don't live and breathe your case, so if you can self rep reasonably confidently, it's definitely the best way to go, and perhaps use a mackenzie's friend to assist with the technical details.

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Daughter refusing to see mother and go to school 8 months 3 weeks ago #95894

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Yes confidence that's the word, it is very important, previous cases I had no confidence even in my solicitors, they seemed to side with the mother and her solicitor, writing the order the mothers solicitor wrote out, the judge then looked over it chatted some rubbish and signed it.
Iook back now and think what the hell! Why was I so dumb, I must have been a proper walk over.
I try not to think of the money I spent on solicitors and barristers it was £18000!
I'd recommend anyone to self rep, and recommend building confidence, seeing judges as normal people helps. People generally have this o no its a judge and feel intimidated . Seeing them as just "another bloke or lady" helps.

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