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child psyhcologist? 3 months 1 week ago #90599

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Quick question guys and girls, need a quick answer (by morning)

If ordered who pays for child psyhcologists in the family court?

as applicant do i have to find and pay for a child psyhcologist to carry out interviews with child and parents and then submit their report to court? been quoted it could cost in excess of £3000

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Started this battle 2010.....cannot see it ending until the courts act on parental alienation

child psyhcologist? 3 months 1 week ago #90600

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Wow, that's steep! I'm not too sure, but I would hope that the cost would be shared, I'd give the court a call and ask what the procedure is... not something I've come across before to be honest, but I've got a sneaking suspicion that you may find it falls on you as the applicant.

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child psyhcologist? 3 months 1 week ago #90602

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Thanks Mojo

trying not to give away my identity to my ex's spies, but sod it...if i'm discovered then what i say is the truth so nothing to worry about.

i'm at what i thought was a final hearing today and tomorrow (2 day trial hearing), it's pretty much the judge will decide on how to progress contact or leave it as is. i've said due to recent correspondence that (child) is obviously suffering parental alienation at the hands of the ex and her family.
i've asked that professional help be sort to un-pick this and get to the bottom of why (child) is saying they dont want to contact me now despite there being no issues up to me taking further legal action againts the ex for more contact.
i've made reference to either child psyhcologisit or other professional councilors such as MASH or CAMHS to try and get out of (child) why they refusing to see me when nothing should be preventing contact - backed up by cafcass and previous hearings

Judge said psychologists can charge around £100/hr and with a case like mine could need around 30hrs going in to it, hence the cost questions

found a link that now has me worried i'll be unable to get (child) that sort of help

www.thecustodyminefield.com/flapp/psychologicalassessments.html

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Started this battle 2010.....cannot see it ending until the courts act on parental alienation

child psyhcologist? 3 months 1 week ago #90604

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As the request has come from you, it's likely that you will have to cover the cost. I don't think it's a CAMHS issue to be honest and a MASH referral would entail multi agency input I think. Have you spoken to SS? Parental alienation s a controversial subject as you know and quite difficult to get agencies to take it onboard, or do anything about it...but you know that.

I'm aware of a new parental alienation pathway being piloted by CAFCASS, perhaps you could talk to them about the possibility of being referred?

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Here's a link, it's called High Conflict Pathway

www.cafcass.gov.uk/grown-ups/parents-and...ct-practice-pathway/
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child psyhcologist? 3 months 1 week ago #90621

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thanks Mojo, gives me something to read before court starts

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How is it going? Did you speak to CAFCASS about the High Conflict Pathway?

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How did you get on?

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child psyhcologist? 3 months 1 week ago #90783

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Difficult to explain without going in to too much detail or getting my hopes up too far.

Basically there was no judgement on the final day, judge is going to write it up then send it us out, then back for a judgement hearing.

However, he ripped in to the CAFCASS worker asked several questions that i had already asked – why had she not put (child) and i together as had previous CAFCASS workers when there are no safeguarding issues etc…etc… and previous ones had observed contact to be good / positive and totally opposite to what the ex had been claiming!

Judge also ripped apart a report by a councillor for not having all the facts and not addressing the “alleged” issues over contact, also having not spoken with me to hear how (child) was with me or the issues with the ex….and basically had taken ex’s word on face value as the CAFCASS worker had done!

I am certain from the way the judge was that judge totally gets the case and has a proper grasp on it…he mentioned lots of signs pointing to Parental alienation, he questioned the ex’s previous history of frustrating and stopping contact and saw clearly the pattern of i asked for extended contact she refused, i threaten court, she stops all contact and we end up back at court…judge saw that and told her plain as day as others had before!

Judge did mention that a psychologist would be able to get to the bottom of why (Child) is still so opposed to contact after such a long time without contact.
however it will all come down to what the judge thinks the potential for further emotional harm to (child) will be if made aware of the proceedings and a psychological report ordered.


I think the only way to say it now is…..to be continued

I’ll update when i know for certain the outcome

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i'm not legally trained....i'm just a Dad going through hell to see his child grow up and become a decent man and human being.....my goal is simple...to be the father to my child like my father is to me...my hero.

Started this battle 2010.....cannot see it ending until the courts act on parental alienation

child psyhcologist? 3 months 1 week ago #90785

Sorry to hear dad-i-d, it all sounds so difficult.


I can't proclaim to understand what you're going through. While we all struggle in one way or another, your case is in a different league. With that in mind, I'll leave you some thoughts, just keep in mind, I'm no professional.


Does your child have an appointed guardian ? It may be the case that if he did, the psychologist cost may be at public expense ? Maybe something to double check. www.thecustodyminefield.com/flapp/guardianadlitem.html


I appreciate the judge suggested it might take 30 hours at £100/hour, but you don't really know that. And presumably it's spread over time, not a one-off cost. I know this is difficult and unfair, but it sounds like the kind of thing that even if you had to go into debt, would be worth doing.


Has there been a finding of emotional harm ?


Fingers crossed for you and your kid.
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Thanks Super.

I should've put the judge is considering a 16.4 Guardian and the psychological reports despite CAFCASS worker report suggesting not.

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Frustrated beyond belief!

Hearing was over 11weeks ago and still no written judgement from court yet :x

2 weeks after hearing having not heard anythign i contacted court and was told the hearing recording was with the transcribers and they'd got a backlog so it would be a couple more weeks,
2 weeks later nothing so contact the court again and i now get told they can't hear the tape recording well enough so needed a new copy creating from court.
2 weeks later still nothing so contact the court again and i nowi get told its back with the transcribers and they've still got a backlog but mine is one of a couple of priority ones to do.
2 weeks later still nothing from court, phone them again and told the same still with transcribers and they've a large backlog to go through
2 weeks later i'm now told that its back from the transcribers and with the judge for signing off before it can be sent out to me.

Still nothing yet.....really really getting fed up now....i've been battling way too long, it's too emotionally draining,
the bloody system stinks! if i behaved like this at work i'd be sacked!

if it's not good news as i hope based on the way the judge was towards the ex in court, then lord only knows what my next move is.

Hope is something that feels lost right now....i know i did the best i could with the resources i have...my parents always told me that the truth will always outshine lies and that liars will always get caught out... i now look at my parents and say yes...i agree...however you don't see what goes on inside the secret family courts....liars don't seem to get any punishment from the 8yrs i've been going through this hell.

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Started this battle 2010.....cannot see it ending until the courts act on parental alienation
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