Hoping for some advice from other parents who work shifts, not Mon – Fri 9-5 and obtaining an Child Arrangement Order.
I am in the process of taking ex-partner to court for child contact where contact has been refused. I may have to get an ‘order’. How will I go about this working most weekends’ evenings with no the same day or evening off each week?
Is the court going to expect me to list dates for the while year? Or say a minimum of x days per week / month or say down to each party to agree?
The court orders that EXWIFE will make CHILD available to spend time with FATHER as follows:
a. For a minimum of XX overnight stays during the year with times and dates to be agreed by parents taking into account FATHER's shift pattern. FATHER to inform EXWIFE of shift pattern 6months/12months in advance. Both parents accept there may be changes to the shift pattern - although FATHER will aim to keep such changes to a minimum.
b. [Other points you want the order to cover, such as mid-week, holidays, half-terms, etc]
Conditions of the Order
It is a condition of this order that [XXXX any particular conditions that may relate to any specific issues in your situation]
For something like the above, you have to know your shift pattern in advance and send it to your Ex.
Another way if possible do your own parents live close to you i know In a child arrangement order you can have who else can be present at pick ups and drop offs I.e grandparents or have the order so your child stays at grandparents residency fri to sun but depends how close they are to make that happen that way you can just work with them and if you can drop in before or after work and if your off great give em a rest
If it's only visitation this could be more tricky with shifts you could give 3 weeks of rota i guess but depending on age it would easier if you had a close relative that can keep and eye if your working and be able to do overnights and be able to drive them back ideally a grandparent is king
Court order can be detailed when you do shifts I.e father must provide 3 week's Rota mother must work with the father on Rota days off or when you finish earlier for possibility of overnight stay ,other relatives at pick ups drop off ,residency another possibility If you live alone Is a live in nanny you can hire to help with you shifts rent free
Some orders will just say father pick ups son 4pm Friday and brings back and sun 6pm in the perfect scenario of mon to Fri but your like me so must be creative an
i work shifts but mine are two weeks of mornings mon to friday and two weeks of lates
so when considering contact arrangements initially the judge ordered for the first year (no nursery) friday to sunday if im on mornings the following week or friday to monday morning if im on lates hence i get 10 nights a month
and the judge ordered that my parents can collect if im at work.
next year will go to friday-mond every other weekend plus a week day because the scavenger (aka mother of child) wants to increase her child maintenace payments and said she wants social time with child (absolute rubbish) if there was no cash involved no child tax credit no child maintenance no child benefit (common link all cash income from child)
then i would bet my life she would not think twice about handing him over.
my advice is to get you shift patterns in advance and get it detailed as much as possible because if there is something missed off or the wording is "to be agreed between parents" then chances are she wont agree which would mean back to court
so all aspects get in writing. If possible speak to your employer regarding a flexible working arrangement or swapping shifts/going to 1 or 2 fixed shifts to suit your child care arrangement if possible ? no harm in asking
i know a friend whose employer agreed to them finishing early the week he has his kids to enable school runs in exchange he made up hours the week when he didnt have the kids.
Luckly my mum a childminder only 5 mins away id have to get new job otherwise as my shifts are totatly diffrent every week 11-7s,3-11,7-3,12-8 days off are diffrent every week ,some weeks my parents do everything as long as it's covered it's fine