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Missing Son 2 months 4 weeks ago #98407

Recently my partner left the family home with our 22 month old son. She has blocked me from her phone, whats App account and not answering my emails.
I really don't want to take the route of getting lawyers, solicitors ,Private Investigators etc.. involved, but really need to see my son!!
Anyone know anything which could help?

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Missing Son 2 months 3 weeks ago #98409

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Hi there

You must be very worried, were there any signs that she might do this, was there an incident, or anything else that might have sparked it?

I doubt solicitors could help locate her, you could contact her family, just ask them to confirm she is ok and ask about your child. If they refuse you could tell them you are contacting the police... that might encourage them to at least tell you she and your child are ok.

If she has gone to a woman’s refuge, the police would be able to tell you that she is safe, but wouldn’t tell you her whereabouts.

If you draw a blank though, you can apply to the court for a seek and find order, all they would require is information that would help them to locate her, either a bank account, place of work, or even a member of her families address.

You could also use a private detective, I used one a long time ago to locate someone, which was successful.

I hope you find them soon. Best of luck

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Missing Son 2 months 3 weeks ago #98410

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Here’s more info on seek and find orders

www.thecustodyminefield.com/flapp/seekandfindorders.html

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Missing Son 2 months 3 weeks ago #98411

Hi,

if you have her parents/family home address, thats good enough. you file for child arrangements order. you put her families address on it. i recommend legal advice.

similar nonsense happened to me. i didnt know where ex ran off to with kids. so got solicitors to do CAO form for me, and all court documents were sent to ex's family home address. seomeone knows where she is and will have to perk up.

you should take early action, as this could end up giving you brain damage/mental health issues.

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Missing Son 2 months 3 weeks ago #98420

Cheers Bill

Unfortunately it is not that simple! My partner is Zimbabwean and has no family here in the UK. From what I have been told she never got on with her own Mother so is not in contact with her. She does have a person she calls 'Mum" who lives in Kent but I cannot contact her. She, like my partner has blocked my phone number as well as my Mums and Dads.

I have phoned the police and they said that she and my son are well but wouldn't reveal their location. My sister had contact with her via 'whats app' but again she would not reveal her location.

Is it Private investigator time?

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If you employ a private detective, what would your next step be? You need to be really careful, if you find out where she is, I wouldn’t advise contacting her, as you could find you’ll have a non molestation order slapped on you. All it takes is a couple of calls, or if you turned up at her address, you could find yourself arrested... particularly as the police have spoken to her and are refusing to reveal her address.

It’s a fair assumption that if her proxy mum has blocked you, it’s likely that she is with her. If you have the address, you could start the ball rolling, but I would speak to a mediator near to where she is staying and ask them to sign off the form to enable you to make an application for a Child Arrangements Order.

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Missing Son 2 months 3 weeks ago #98422

yep you could hire private investigator. but as mojo mentioned, do not go knocking on her door. she will mostly like say go away or she'll call police. just find out address. go to mediator and say partner has cut all contact and ran off with kids. 99% chance they will just give you green light to make court application. better to hurry before she does anything silly like leave the country with your child.

theres good mediation service. can just do video call with them. can recommend one if this forum allows it.

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Missing Son 2 months 3 weeks ago #98426

No, I definitely won't turn up and ask to speak to her! And my boy doesn't have a passport yet!
Thank-you somuch

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... Just a heads up, it only takes one parent to apply for a passport I believe.

It might be the case that a seek and find order is cheaper than hiring a detective, if you self represent... solicitors fees will bump the costs up rapidly.

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Bill337 wrote: yep you could hire private investigator. but as mojo mentioned, do not go knocking on her door. she will mostly like say go away or she'll call police. just find out address. go to mediator and say partner has cut all contact and ran off with kids. 99% chance they will just give you green light to make court application. better to hurry before she does anything silly like leave the country with your child.

theres good mediation service. can just do video call with them. can recommend one if this forum allows it.


We would rather you didn’t link to individual mediation services on the forum, thanks Bill.:)

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Missing Son 2 months 3 weeks ago #98436

Mojo wrote: ... Just a heads up, it only takes one parent to apply for a passport I believe.

It might be the case that a seek and find order is cheaper than hiring a detective, if you self represent... solicitors fees will bump the costs up rapidly.


looks like this form. and usually you would have to apply together with a c100 form, child arrangements order.

Application for an order for disclosure of a child’s whereabouts

Form C4
Form C4: Ask the court to order someone to give information about where a child is

www.gov.uk/government/publications/form-...a-childs-whereabouts

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Yes an application for a seek and find order is made with form C4. I gave Shearer information about it above. The C4 and C100 forms can be submitted together.

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