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 actd
(@actd)
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no worries, the freedom of information info is really good, I am sure that CMS would rather not have to share this, another poster increased to 36% with no questions asked, but I have got my facts ready, in case I get yet another man hating and non-resident parent hater on the phone, when I contact the CMS, as I generally do, assuming all fathers are trying not to pay etc

Regulation 71, 2012/2677 Child Support Maintenance Calculation Regulations 2012, deals with the issue of "diversion of income", in case your ex disputes, or applies for a variation, or if you just get a person at the CMS with an attitude

Case Law, DW v Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission and (CSM) 19-02-2010, in case you want a bit of light reading

for info

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Topic starter Posted : 12/01/2021 7:35 pm
(@bruceout)
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Hi, apologies but I can't see the thread leading up to this. Would you be able to inform me if there is a way of increasing my pension above 12% so as to offset an unfair imbalance in my future payments?

The P60 that I assume the CMS are going to use to calculate my payments is overinflated by about 20% as I was hammering overtime the last financial year in order to pay off a massive bill (and bills of my ex-partner). The next P60 (and the ones after that) will show a drop in salary by 15-20%, but as I understand it this drop will not be taken into account as it isn't a "25%" drop? thanks

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Posted : 20/01/2021 6:57 am
(@mwall66)
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Hi Bruce Out, how old are you and roughly how long have you been paying into a pension

this will have a significant effect on the percentage that is deemed acceptable by the CMS own internal guidelines, which under a freedom of information request, is now known, much I assume to their annoyance

the 12% is a starting point and refers to a person in their early 30's, the two legal cases in this matter have clear instructions from the judge, on the "other" reasons that need to be taken into account

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Posted : 20/01/2021 3:20 pm
(@bruceout)
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thanks for the reply

I'm 38. My pension contributions have fluctuated from 0% to 5% over the past 15 years but for the most part they have been 0%. But with a 5% contribution from my employer.

The 12%, 20% etc guide figures quoted in the CMS guidance doc I assume refers to my contributions + my employers contributions?

According to the government online pension calculator I stand to be in a pension shortfall of £18k if I continue to contribute 5%, depending on my retirement age. Even if I retire at 70 I'll still be in a shortfall.

Even if I up my contributions to 20% then I'll still have a shortfall when retiring at 70. Christ this is depressing.

OK I'm going to up my contributions to 22% (not including my non-pensionable overtime pay) and if its challenged then I have the data to back it up. That's if CMS even take a look at my pension contributions

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Posted : 20/01/2021 8:21 pm
(@mwall66)
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Hi, so will increasing your pension contributions to 22%, take you over the 25% variance to request a recalculation? I have not included my employee contributions and see how that goes, at worst, you will take off their percentage

You have the back up of the calculator, showing a shortfall, even with the increased contributions, as I have, so I see there can be no challenge under S71 of diverting income and any request for a variation from the ex, should really be blown out at first request

let us know how you get on

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Posted : 20/01/2021 8:30 pm
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