Hi Millerzd,
I was really hoping to understand JJ a bit more before posting.... however I'm happy to chat.
I wonder whether the thing going on is, at least in part, related to maturing.
eg at home the way the home runs is understood (if not exactly how the child wants things to work), so there is one experience of trying to be independant.
Yet, out in the big world there are other things around: peers, the opposite [censored], the freedom to experiment with independance.
So my hunch is that each child will have experienced role models - but my fear is that they could (simplistically speaking) be from Action or lame comedy films/movies, without much constructive time spent with their Father / Uncle [thus not getting wisdom and advice].
So, in search of working out what independance is, there can be showing off to peers (to fit in with the guys); the will be 'strutting like a peacock' (in attempt to attract girls); and trying things out eg anything other people in society try.
I sense that some children have had a good start in life with good enough role models around them and with healthy experiences as they were growing - so they perhaps have better skills / ideas / more wisdom / a good sense of when something is going too far / and the ability to tell themselves to stop.
And at the other end of a continuum I think other children might have had a tough start with slightly toxic experiences as they grew up - leaving them with fewer ideas how to cope with the 'freedom' of doing whatever they want to when out and about (eg, putting themselves and others at risk when showing off to friends or getting stuck on something which is addictive).
So when things are 'going wrong' for children, my gut feeling is that the maturing of our youths requires a lot of positive support from responsible people around them. Firstly the home is a very powerful influence in the early years of childhood... but as children become teens I sense that the 'role models' shift to peers (i do what they do) and heroes (tv, film, music video ...)
I wonder whether a child's experience of 'authority' is important. Some youths respect authority and can therefore take on board guidance from society (don't do this, that or the other). Others might have learnt, from early role models, to ignore or fight against authority simply by adult's attitudes toward eg rent collector, benefit clerks, police ...).
So, if peers around a child have a poor attitude to authority/the structure of society, then 'acting' to show off to others can result in various difficulties as a youth discovers what to do with independance as they mature.
So I think there can be a tension between influences on a youth, eg: teachers; youth club leaders; sports coaches; others in 'authority' -and- the ideas of peers around them.
[sorry, rather a long reply... ]