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[Solved] C100 Section 7 Help - Much Appreciated


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(@wiggyste)
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Hi,

I am applying to the court for a contact order and am struggling to word section 7 of the c100 form. This is what i've got so far and i have looked at the helpful tips on the sticky too and tried to implement them.

I am applying for a contact order to ensure that i get regular quality time with my son Kyron.

I am making this application because the child’s mother is refusing me contact with my son as i couldn't have him at the times that suit her. She doesn't understand that
as i work shifts and once a month on a Sunday i have to fit contact times around my work hours and in her eyes it's her jumping when i say jump. I have tried negotiating
and compromising so that we both have some free time on the weekends which means i have offered to have my son for a few hours in the week while i'm on my 6-2 shift aswell as
over night on the weekend. At this time i am unable to have my son overnight in the week due to my working hours that would affect his sleeping pattern. Me and the childs mother
previously came to a agreement where I would give her a monthly calender at the start of the month of the days and times I could have him. Apart from one weekend in the month, which is when I have to work a sunday, I proposed to have him on either a Friday or Saturday at 9am until 6pm the following day. As I always finished on a 6-2 shift before starting a 2-10 shift on the sunday, I proposed to having him from 3pm on the Friday after work until 6pm the following day. This agreement was going well for about 2 weeks before one weekend she text me at the very last minute saying that I HAD to have my son from 3pm Friday until Saturday 10pm or else she would not allow me contact. As I already had plans for after 6pm on the saturday which was when we initially agreed I would have him until, I refused and she has now refused all contact saying I have got no rights to see him.

I would ask that the court seek to support me in -

1. Allowing me to have my son on the days/times that fit around my work shifts, as above.
2. Allowing me to have my son for one week during the summer holidays.
3. NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE – Basically I plan to go on family holidays with my son but also holidays without my son, so I can spend quality time with my partner, how would I word this? Obviously I would have to give her notice and I would like a maximum of 4 weekends free.

I think it looks a bit messy but i'm not so good with words, any help appreciated.

Regards

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Hi there,

I have read through your post a couple of times and its a bit confusing!

Is there a way you could simplify the explanation of how your shift patterns work, perhaps by listing them in a 1.2.3....format. Does the company you work for enable flexible working for their employees? Could you apply for flexible working hours so that your days off could be more defined, that would make things a lot easier.s

Might it be better to start with the initial contact that you had both agreed upon, and then discuss what happened and why it didnt work out. Then you could talk about how you would like future contact to be...I thought the idea of having a monthly calandar was a good one. try not to speak badly about the mother, try always to come across in a calm and balanced way, putting the best interests of your child first, and ask that the court help you to promote a fulfilling and positive relationship with your child.

In point 3 you talk about having one week with your son in the holidays...I dont think you really need to expand on that and talk about needing quality time with your new partner.

There is a very similar question by ak57 that was posted earlier today, it might help to have a look at the replies she received...its about 4 or 5 posts below this one.

Perhaps when you have completed section 7, you could post it here and ask for feedback on it.

Good luck with it all.

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Hi There.

How about something like this (if anything isn't correct just amend)

I am requesting the courts help in arranging regular contact with (insert Childs name), (insert Childs name)’s mother has restricted access as I am unable to make the times and dates that’s she specifies due to work commitments, I work on a shift pattern and can’t always make the times given to me by (Childs name)’s mother, when I suggest times that I am able to make these are declined without negotiation. I am currently not given overnight stays with(Childs name) and would also like this to happen.
I had am agreement with (childs name)’s mother where I would give her a monthly calendar at the start of the month with the days and times I wasn’t working so able to see (childs name) We had managed to work this well and we had managed to gain good contact for a couple of weeks until (child’s name)’s mother wanted to change the arrangement short notice and I wasn’t able to meet this so she has stopped ALL contact telling me I have no rights to see (childs name)

I am looking for assistance in arranging a set order to allow me and (childs name) to spend quality time together and build a stronger relationship as father and son.

I am restricted by my working pattern so need a flexible approach to the contact order that fits in around working, I am looking at achieving extra time with my son in summer holidays and would like to have the opportunity to take him on family holidays. The main thing I am trying to gain is an agreement to allow my son and I to achieve and maintain a good relationship that fits in around my work and other commitments as well as with those in his and his mothers life.

I have tried to remember what the situation is from reading past post's so If I haven't got something correct just correct it.

Don't get too caught up in explaining the full shift patern as this will come accross confusing when written down no mater how its written, you will have chance to explain this when in court anyway.

Darren

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Hi there,

I have read through your post a couple of times and its a bit confusing!

Is there a way you could simplify the explanation of how your shift patterns work, perhaps by listing them in a 1.2.3....format. Does the company you work for enable flexible working for their employees? Could you apply for flexible working hours so that your days off could be more defined, that would make things a lot easier.s

Might it be better to start with the initial contact that you had both agreed upon, and then discuss what happened and why it didnt work out. Then you could talk about how you would like future contact to be...I thought the idea of having a monthly calandar was a good one. try not to speak badly about the mother, try always to come across in a calm and balanced way, putting the best interests of your child first, and ask that the court help you to promote a fulfilling and positive relationship with your child.

In point 3 you talk about having one week with your son in the holidays...I dont think you really need to expand on that and talk about needing quality time with your new partner.

There is a very similar question by ak57 that was posted earlier today, it might help to have a look at the replies she received...its about 4 or 5 posts below this one.

Perhaps when you have completed section 7, you could post it here and ask for feedback on it.

Good luck with it all.

Yeah i agree that it does sound rather confusing as are my working hours. The company i work for does not allow flexible working hours, it's either them hours or no job. Thank you so much for your help.

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Hi There.

How about something like this (if anything isn't correct just amend)

I am requesting the courts help in arranging regular contact with (insert Childs name), (insert Childs name)’s mother has restricted access as I am unable to make the times and dates that’s she specifies due to work commitments, I work on a shift pattern and can’t always make the times given to me by (Childs name)’s mother, when I suggest times that I am able to make these are declined without negotiation. I am currently not given overnight stays with(Childs name) and would also like this to happen.
I had am agreement with (childs name)’s mother where I would give her a monthly calendar at the start of the month with the days and times I wasn’t working so able to see (childs name) We had managed to work this well and we had managed to gain good contact for a couple of weeks until (child’s name)’s mother wanted to change the arrangement short notice and I wasn’t able to meet this so she has stopped ALL contact telling me I have no rights to see (childs name)

I am looking for assistance in arranging a set order to allow me and (childs name) to spend quality time together and build a stronger relationship as father and son.

I am restricted by my working pattern so need a flexible approach to the contact order that fits in around working, I am looking at achieving extra time with my son in summer holidays and would like to have the opportunity to take him on family holidays. The main thing I am trying to gain is an agreement to allow my son and I to achieve and maintain a good relationship that fits in around my work and other commitments as well as with those in his and his mothers life.

I have tried to remember what the situation is from reading past post's so If I haven't got something correct just correct it.

Don't get too caught up in explaining the full shift patern as this will come accross confusing when written down no mater how its written, you will have chance to explain this when in court anyway.

Darren

This sounds perfect, a few minor changes about overnight stays because when i was having him, i would have him overnight but everything is else is spot on. I really appreciate this, the whole situation is frying my head to be honest. I only realised yesterday that the number i had for my ex, the number i had been texting for a while asking if i could have my son every week, is now invalid...so she changed her number to try and cut every single bit of contact.....saying that it only took me 10 minutes to get her new number and she wasn't impressed.

I sent her a calm message yesterday saying that i would be taking the forms to court next week but offered her a chance that we could resolve this without court then it would better for our son. She replied asking how i got her number and said that she works around my work but i cant work around hers (This was when she text at last minute saying that i have to have my son from this time to this time or not at all, as i had plans for the time she wanted me to have him longer i refused).
I replied saying that i do not want to argue as we will just keep going in circles but stated again that i can only have my son around my work hours and that i gave her a the months schedule at the start of the month (2 weeks prior) and that she can't just expect me to drop my plans at the very last minute because she failed to mention that she had work (This i do not believe anyway, once when i had my son she said she had work from 7am in the morning until 11pm that same day, i hadn't seen my son for 6 weeks as she refused me contact for something else silly so i said yes because i was missing him...Anyway through a friend that has her on facebook, she was at T4 on the beach!).
I wouldn't mind having my son longer if only she was to give me some notice but texting me at the very last minute expecting me to drop my plans that i've had for weeks is just wrong but she fails to realise that. At that time i asked if her boyfriend could help and she replied saying he's having a night out with the lads! I'm always finding out that she's asking members of my family to have him while she goes drinking every weekend when i could be having him.

Thank you for you help once again and i will attach a copy of my statement when i have wrote it out later today.

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..Darrens suggestion sounded spot on to me.... the guys on here are fantastic!

You're doing the right thing by remaining civil to your ex...Tell her you appreciate she needs a break and time away from being a mum, say you know its not easy being a single mum and tell her you only want to help and work with her for the sake of your son, massage her ego a bit!...

After paying her a few mummy type compliments, perhaps you could suggest to her that before she asks other members of your family to have your son at the weekends, she texts you first to see if you are available, as if you're free you would love to have him...or get the members of your family to text you when she has asked them to step in, and then you could contact her and say you would be happy to look after him instead, as it gives you more time with him. Continue to tell her all you want is whats best for your child, and would be happy, if you havent made any plans, to have him for any extra contact, above what is agreed on.

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