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[Solved] child benifit fraud


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My son who was doing 3 subjects at college last year, therefore gaining the 12 hrs to qualify for csa payments to continue has now dropped to 2 subject totalling 8 hrs. According to the csa my ex wife is still claiming child benifit so i have to continue paying even though i shouldn't have to!! where to go and what to do ?? i've made a fraud claim at child benifits as the csa only work off what they say and its the only option i can see to get my paymants to stop. Does anyone have any advice please ??

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Is there any way you can get written proof that the course is now at 8 hours per week?

If so, you could contact the CSA, tell them that the PWC has failed to supply them with relevant information (which I believe that she is required to do) and that you are withholding payment and sending them a letter with the proof. See what they say will be their next action - if it involved taking you to court, then that's what you want because you can prove that you don't owe the money. However, make sure you pay the money into a bank account in case it goes against you - that way you can pay the arrears with the money in the bank.

I must point out that this is not an approved course of action, and potentially, you could end up paying extra costs if it goes against you, but if I was in your position, it's certainly something I would consider doing.

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Thanks actd,
I have a copy of his last report with only 2 subjects on it so will use that. Having made a few phone calls there is obviously yet another loop hole in the wonderful csa as their reply was that they get their info from child benefit so it's not their problem that there is a fraudulent claim going in and it's down to me to get it rectified!
I could bang on but I'm just someone who wants fair play but sadly having to fight for it.

Me thinks there are 2 sets of rules 🙁

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Hi I understand that to continue to claim cb you have to have a child in education for at least 12 hours, does you ex know this info. Also your child is still in education and will be still a dependent to his parents whether through cssa or other wise, maybe not legally but I would have thought it would only be right to carry on supporting till he gets a job, they turn 16-20 they still have to eat and be clothed, sorry I do see your point but I can see it from the other side to

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I understand where you're coming from AK57 but my ex wife is rather vindictive and has been known to 'work the system' before and also my son does not want to have anything to do with me thanks to his mum filling his head with stuff. So, realistically I'm fed up with being the 'gravy train' and therefore if they want nothing to do with me why oh why do I have to keep having to accept having the mick taken?
I do not want to sound like a loon, just want a bit of fair play as you cant have it both ways can you?

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Hi, I actually think maintenance and contact should be connected, I believe it would make a lot of Mums think before they stopped contact on a whim if the money was stopped. A lot or people seem to know how to work the system and if she is doing this just to continue getting money of you with no contact then go for it . How about getting a one off letter from a solicitor pointing things out in black and white ..

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What a [censored] good idea AK57, think you might have solved it there! And, If the PWC did have any issues then maybe accompanied contact would be the way round it?

Thanks for your idea about a one off letter, I'll look into the cost. Just need to sit down and plan a strategy now. I shouldn't have to but needs must, because I'm sure the ex knows the rules and has chosen to bend them.

Although, I suppose the reality is it's not a horrendous situation and I do feel sorry for the blokes who have a really bad deal.

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Well here I am 3 months down the line and still paying!!

Rang up Child benefits ages ago to report the fraud and have recently written to them with a copy of my sons report showing he wasn't doing 12 hours asking them for an update or to check if they've even looked into it.
Spoke to the good old CSA and found out that the ex is claiming for another year to Sept 2014, even though when I rang the college he hadn't re enrolled again. IS THERE NO JUSTICE??
So have now been forced to e mail a complaint to the CSA as the lady I spoke to when asked if I could speak to someone more senior to look into it and that the ex had not informed them of his changes (like they say in their info pack) said ' they'll only tell you what I've told you before'.

Have sought legal advice and they said I've done the right things so far but hey I'm still paying and no one is helping. I'm sure I'm not the only bloke in this situation, but they have got to sort this massive loop hole out, surely?

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I would take your documentation to your MP and ask him to make a complaint to the CSA (and benefits agency if he can do that).

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Cheers, spoke to the CSA and they were very understanding but said they wont look in to it further as 'they don't make the rules' but suggested speaking to my MP. Sent her a brief synopsis and she said she would take it up with the child support and CSA if I wanted. That's a big fat YES lol. I'm awaiting to speak to her and hopefully will get a result at long last.

Thanks for your help and suggestions.

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