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[Solved] Contact for child


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(@sid4u)
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Hi I am new to this site and thought it would be beneficial to share my experience on the site to gain some advice as well as some support from those who have been through the run of the mill as it is not easy and help me not to worry all the time. I hope i have the correct chat room of the forum..Ok so here goes

I got married to my missus in Sept 2011 everything was great the only issue was that we fell pregnant quite early on in the marriage. It was a complete suprise to both but we were both happy. I was over the moon as i love kids and marriage was a step in the right direction to start a family and raise kids.

So, we broke the news to people after 2 months. Until her mother got involved. She started to ask whether my wife can stay with her 2months prior to birth and then 40days after. This being a cultural gab, i diplomatically declined but i never stopped her from going to her parents as and when she needed. We live 10 mins apart from relatives. Reason being i felt it was my obligation to take care of her throught preganancy it was the first child on both sides of the family. 3 months into pregancy her mother was asking again, and then to my parents hoping that i would change my mind, but it was ludicrous. My wife never discussed this with me or asked me directly but i did explain to her my reason and showed as much support and affection towards her. So then, 4 months into pregnancy my wife after staying at her parents home for a week, decided to alledge that 'i threw her out of the house to me and my family'...no police, no proof just a lie. We resolved eventually but i became weary of accusations and something did not seem right. But everything was going smoothly from then on.

I attended all antenatal classes, scans , gp appoitments regarding our child. Until at at 8 months preganant last August 2012 left to go and spend time with her family to which she refused to return. Prior to leaving we had a massive fight alledging this time i was being unfaithful to her, and that a ex gf of mine from 10 years ago had been messaging her claiming we were together. When i asked her to show me the message she conveniently deleted it, out of anger!!! Again another proffless accusation. Not to mention my ex gf didnt even know i was married or my wifes name!! She, became incommunicado and staged this accusation i believe to her family who were then preventing me to see her or her speak with me at such a crucial moment. I realised that at the time she left was close to her mothers 2 months prior to birth as she was due late sept 2012. Anyhow she gave birth without telling me and refused me access at the hospital when i found out.

I eventually got my family members involved and went to her parents to see my new son 2-3 days later. They the family were painting the perfect picture. I was trying to understand why my wife did this and to the point why is she not suddenly wanting to return with our child. I would like to point out that her eldest brother unfortunately had two still borns, due to pre-eclympsia. The other brother just cant concieve.

Anyway i went to make my marriage work, bring back my wife and son however my wife had become a different person. She began to accuse my family of having control of me and that i should not have any contact etc etc, more silly claims, mocking and accusations. Trying to break a home to make a home. After all her rant she agreed and promised she would come back but didnt. instead cleared our joint account.

So i began to visit the home every other day to bond with my son and work with my wife. to my horror the first thing i noticed in her bedroom (downstairs converted garage) was that there was my sons moses basket, wifes double bed then her mothers bed!!! When i attended early evenings her mother just would not let me have him, hold him , bath him etc. My wife wouldnt care and would only be ecouraging for me to hold in front of others. So i started attending late evenings and got the contact time i required. However then my wife would start fights argue with me, over the same things going around in circles. About infedelity, why did i leave her to give birth alone, i left the marriage...[censored]! I use to leave. It got better the more i attended late in the evenings. we then went out a few times as my goal was to get her and son out of the house. She was becoming the old wife again. She even came back breifly to our marital home, my son got meet his grandparents and all the relatives for the first time. There were no issues my family, freinds and relatives were all fully aware of our issues.

Until, her mother began to sleep in the same room downstairs. She began to interefer in my time, which meant i could not stay to look after my child through the night. the fight were just becoming mentally draining as it was the same going around in circles. I could not distinguish if she is mental or whether she is being controlled or maniuplated at home be her mother. I was surely being emotionally abused and manipulated.

Dec 2012 we agreed to work things out and move into our home we purchased early in the mariage. I got it all ready as she requested. She never came on the date we agreed she was insistent that i come collect her, although she has a car and went on her own accord and we she met me with our son a few times in city centre. I felt i was being set up as i was suddenly getting calls off her brothers wanting to talk with me..I told them come to my house with my wife we will talk. They never, she proceeded to clear our joint account again as we previously removed the freeze i had placed on the account a few days earlier.

At that point i dedided to take legal advice. I would message about meeting neutrally away from the animals she live with and bring our son. She became incommunicado about the welfare and wellbeing of our son. I enrolled on a parenting course for 5 weeks that i completed. I approached soliciotrs they offered mediation she refused and didnt attend. When the solictors letter came she suddenly called me to make the marriage work, i declined and stated that she only contacts me about our son that im done with the games and lies.

During this period i refused to have any contact with her and did not respond at all. She began to send me abusive emails and messages. She even tried to defame my character to my extended family memebers who just thought she was a crackpot. Due to this harassment i got the police to speak with her and as a result attained some log number. I have never had police speak with me about her allegations, never been arrested or been in trouble with the law.

I applied for a contact order in June 2012 as it had been 6 months i hadnt seen my son for a defined contact order, as supervised contact becasue i suspected she will retaliate in making accusation. Our first hearing came and i had to adjourn it because conflict of interest. I seen her solicitor months ago about my case. At this stage she refused a gift i bought for my son in front of solicitors. She also refused to give me a recent photograph in exchange that i am allowed indirect access so i can send him gifts. second hearing was directions as wife did not attend because she did not have legal representation. She has loads of money and was trying to apply for legal aid. The courts response was that she must attend the next hearing despite having representation or not.

We spoke to CAFCASS, as my wife was alledging that i forced her out of the house. That I was emotionally, psychologically and mentally abusive to her. That i have undiagnosed mental health issues and am a risk. she did not mention i was a risk to the child or any abuse towards our son. The courts in the direction hearing decided that a scott schedule to be completed to outline what the abuse is. and gave her the opportunity to write a statement first and then later for me to counter and the courts then to decide if a fact find is to take place.

I recieved her statement through my solicitors. It was 69 paragraphs!! It read very vague and there a lot of usual accusations about threats, domestic, violence but there a [censored] of a lot contradictions in there. She was also being abused my by family memebers. What disturbed me the most was that she reported she never stopped me from seeing my son but then reported that i was abusing my child when i visited, i attempted to put hot ash on him, pull his hair, lay a heavy jacket over him, pull his limb and drag him across the bed at 2 months old...i even was apparantly attempting to sexually abuse.DISGUSTING i am very disturbed by all this and the false accusations of abuse and feel severley depressed. She then responded that we reconciled and that she agreed to move in with me the next month...

i kept a journal of facts with dates and times of what happened and my where abouts. I countered her statement and have few witnesses to support my statements, luckily they were there at crucial points the day she left, the day she returned to our home with all family present so they can see our son.

My 3rd hearing is due and my sons 1 year birthday has passed and i am extremely anxious by all this. I am not sure if my solicitor is up to it as she cant tell me anything, and i have done all the work for her. Journal, personal statement, witness statements etc, I am paying her to do what! I dont feel re-assured and believe i could perhaps represent myself but i dont want to jump ship without expecting what will happen. I have faith that god is on my side and things are working in my favour.

I just want lies to stop and have my child with me. i have no faith in the system as it has taken 4 months without getting anywhere since my contact order. I am even shocked and disgusted by how low she has become with her lies of disgusting acts in her statement. emotionally i am detached from her but cant bear the thought of dealing with this wretched person for the next 18years!! Maybe she has a personality disorder she definatly sufferes from dellusion and often projects...

If i describe her persona, if i subsequently gave her a saw to hold and walked away. She would most probably have sawn her own leg off and then blamed me for the fact i gave her the saw in the first instance.

Can someone please offer me any support with the torment that i am going through. i miss my son terribly and feel apart of me is missing. I have had 3months of interaction i dont know him and he dont know me. What will happen in the courts how can i prove she is a total nut and that i dont feel she is mentally fit or stable. I know her mother will be taking care of my child but i suspect my wife is a replica of her mother too!

What can i do in terms of court and access and what to expect?

I fee l alientated from my child and worried about him bonding with me?

I want him to have access to all my family members, i have real big family he will benefit from.

I am qualified UK sports coach, having passed child protection courses to teach 5yrs over cricket. I am a PhD qualified engineer and work internationally with my job. I have all the criteria to be the best example for my son.

What can i do. Please help.

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(@boycieuk)
Joined: 12 years ago

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Dear Sid,

what you describe is unfortunately a common scenario that many of us experience on this website.

I think there are a number of issues

1) Emotional support - this website, depends where you live, fathers for justice.....
2) solicitors - waste of money......save the money to buy something nice for your child. People on this site can help with the process
3) When was the last time you had contact. What kind of contact do you have....
Lots of the issues will be based on whether SS was involved. It doesnt sound like it given you have spoken to CAFCASS.
when you go to court - have an aim....eg unsupervised contact, more hours etc....ticking one box is always a start.

On your side is that he is 1....eventually this nightmare will sort itself out.....he will not be aware of any of this......Children will subconsciously be aware of their parents so remember this. When he is back in your arms he'll recognise your smell and touch and realise your his daddy straight away.....

Good luck!!!

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Joined: 12 years ago

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Sid4u, I am a Mum of two and have just read your story. I cannot believe the way you have been treated, I feel for you. Do you think your wife had pre natal depression? Some women do get jealous of other women whe pregnant,as their bodies are changing and some don't like it. You are absolutely doing the right thing in keeping a diary. I have had false accusations made against me by my ex, and writing In my diary&providing reciepts and proof of where I have been and people I have seen has been invaluable. Be strong and keep your chin up,don't let her win x

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(@Nannyjane)
Joined: 13 years ago

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Hi there Sid4u,

I am so sorry you are having such a hard time, like Boycie I think if you have no faith in your solicitor you might find it better to drop them and represent yourself. You might like to consider attending Families Need Fathers meeting, there are branches nationally and you will find some much needed face to face support and good legal advice. Here's a link to the webpage where you can find a branch near to where you live. www.fnf.org.uk/help-and-support/local-branch-meetings

Unfortunately court cases, especially where there are allegations, can take months to conclude. My son, who's currently going through court on a fairly straightforward issue has been in the process since January and the next hearing isn't until the end of November....so you see it best to develop patience and some coping strategies. I find that actually researching your situation is a good way to get through it all. Perhaps sitting down and doing a statement that countered her allegations is also a good way to be pro active. As you have been doing a lot of this already you will know what I mean.

As far as what you can expect from the court in terms of contact, that a difficult one...every judge is different and their directions are reliant on their personal take on the case....wrong I know, the judgements are only as good, or as bad, as the judge on the day. ...although none of them like to be messed around and if your wife continues to flout procedure bynot turning up etc she will be told!

I think your aim is to get unsupervised contact but you may have to accept supervised contact, supported at a contact centre initially. It's also good to put together a schedule of increasing contact that you can present to the judge, this shows that you have put thought into moving forward with your child's best interests at the front.

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Guys,

Thank you so much for replying, it makes a change to be able to share stories with some people who actually go through the mess. My family have been great i love them to bits, but often get into arguments about this debacle because they really just dont understand where I am coming from and being a person who is so close to the situation it is sometimes difficult to explain myself or even see and think clearly. I am usually very good at giving advice but find not being able to take my own.

I mangaged to get legal aid and pay contribution but my solicitor i feel just seems to be comfortable in letting this continue. When i ask questions i dont get direct answers. My freind gave me her contact details as her brother went through this and she managed to get contact for him and his 5 kids so i went based on recommendation, and the fact she is asian so she would understand the asian culture and mentality...not wanting to offend anyone!

You are absolutley correct, i found coping by being patient and researching and just the odd google and read a story. This is where my frustration is with solicitors it seems that i sometimes am aware of the whole procedures than they are. My wife managed to change my sons first name within 12months taking away my name as his middle name. She wasnt even aware if this was legal or illegal. I get the feeling she is happy to let the case drag 'because she will make it messy' just so she keeps getting her monthly payments from me.

I am also frustrated, because my wife has attempted to get legal aid going down the domestic abuse route..as far as i am aware i have never abused her (she knows this) or my son but she is claiming that i did. I have never been arrested, charged, cautioned or even once had police or social services come knocking on my door! There is no proof, and i would expect my solicitor to have this information collated but she just asks have you had any cautions etc...

I have prepared my statement, i last seen my son when he was 3months, so about 9moinths i have not seen him but he is still so very young. I am fortunate i have evidence against her countering her claims via emails, texts etc...and some witnesses such as freinds. One of the more important witnesses went to see my solictor her to give a statement , i called her to get an update..(a) she was too busy to take my call and (b) she is waiting for the witness to write a statement!!! I was so cheesed off thinking this is your job you see the witness for an hour what were you doing having a lunch date!!!

Anyhow i am submitting my counter statement on Monday 14th October, and the hearing is 15th october. I have wrote quite a big counter statement with dates and i hope the judge sees sense and whoever reads the long statements has the sense to see that contact is paramount. i have deliberatly asked for supervised contact because i predicted she would say i am a risk, and besides i want the supervisors to take note of what a good parent i am and a benefit to my son. I would ideally love to bring him home but any direct contact is what i am aiming for.

I dont know if she was depressed, highly unlikely as she was perfectly normal all the way through. Whenever she came from her mothers there was always some accusation so she was perhaps manipulated her at parents home and influenced her as a way to maybe have control over me now that baby was coming. I think it was more about control and separating me from my freinds and family and moving in with her parents (i will never do). She has been lately making foul comments about my father whom i have been taking care of with my mother as he had a stroke before i got married and have been helping him to recovery. She seems to be extreemely jealous of the closeness i have with my family and even with freinds. i have never made her feel insecure or even looked at other women, but feel she was insecure anyway. She may have had a mental illness that they have concealed from me, it was an arranged marriage but i got to know her for 2years and there were no signs other than she seemed shy but i put this down to insecurty. i can actually admit and say that during the period when baby came i was the subject of passive agressive behaviour, emotional abuse, being decieved, manipulated the whole lot.

What should i do and expect from the court hearing...i am hoping there is no fact find as it will be a waste of time if someone actually reads both statements. ???

I want to give my concerns that i now feel she is mentally not stable/fit. What should i expect to happen at this stage and how much longer will it take. I am extremely hacked off by the process. The C100 form for access apparently gets seen to very quickly as a matter of urgency but then they take ages for the actual process to go through!!! JOKE

I have not had an interview with CAFCASS, they deemed it not suitable until a full hearing but i have had spoken to them on the phone to give my report previously. But cafcass reports no police records or social services involvement against me. Can she make false claims and use them in court despite not informing cafcass??

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Thank you for your advice and support and i hope to hear your situatuon gets better too. I think the thing i have learned most is patience and character. Kill them with character!! Faith in god and support from my freinds and family has been invaluable!

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