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[Solved] dad's name on birth certificate


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hi there,
i have 6 months old son with my ex-colleague. i went via csa, went for dna with my son, but he (the father) did not give a dna sample. csa established him as a father - based on presumption.
i want his name on my son's birth certificate, as i know he is the father.
do i have to go via court or csa has the competency? thanks for every advice, nat.

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You can go to court and apply for a declaration of paternity.

The court will order DNA testing. Once the DNA testing is carried out and it is proved he is the biological father, you can then apply for a court ordered declaration of paternity. You can use this declaration to reregister the birth with the fathers name on it.

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that's exactly my question as well, thanks

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If it is a court order he technically has no choice, failing to do so is contempt of court and can result in jail. How likely is a judge to do that? Depends on your judge really and how well you sell you reasons for wanting the father on the BC.

A friends case did result in the father being "held" for 5 hours! I think this is shockingly draconian given mothers arent jailed for failing to follow contact orders but there you are I wasnt the judge in question.

Why do you want him on the birth certificate?
Why is he refusing to go on the birth certificate?
Does he have any contact with the child?
How long was your relationship?

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hi tony,
he used to be my colleague. i knew him 5 years, but relationship lasted only until i told him i'm pregnant (4 months) He told me he couldn't have children....but as i haven't been with anybody else....he is the father of our baby - who looks exactly like him.
i dealt with csa - not for money - but for the right of our son - to have a father - they told me he wants to go for dna - so i went and my son gave a sample too - he never gave his.....reason to me (and his brother) is obvious.
anyway,
- i take it from my point of view - i would like to know who my father is
- he is refusing - i don't know the reason - and i don't want to make up any stories or fictions in my head
- he disappeared when i told him, i'm pregnant - it was september last year, baby boy was born in may. he even left the job, where we were working together

i'd like to get some firm to represent me in this case probably, because i think i cannot ask the court to prove paternity - it needs to go along something else. i'm not after money, i'm after thuth.

thanks for your valued opinion,
nat.

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Hi Nat,

To be honest I think you need to firm up more in your mind why you want to do this and get those reasons down.

If it is possible that the father willl refuse to attend court and refuse to willingly undertake a DNA test, the only way for the court to enforce it would be to threaten and carry out jailing him until he co-operates. In order for them to do this, they are going to need substantial child focused reasons about exactly why he should be named on the BC.

Also might be worth inviting him to attend mediation, and / or sending him the staturtory declaration form directly asking him to sign and return it. ay you would prefer it to be amicable and all you want is his name on the BC. At least then if it does go to court, you have shown that you tried to resolve it amicably first.

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Hi Nat
I can understand why you would want the fathers name on your childs birth certificate. How ever this is not going to make him a father to your child, it sounds like he really will not accept it. If you are getting payments via the csa and he really thought he wasnt the Father then he would have done the Dna as why pay for the next 18 years. I think you have to come to terms with him not wanting to be around, is he married ? as he got other kids ? how old his he
. I would do what Tonyl suggests and try sending him the forms
If he did a u turn and went on the birth certificate would you let him have contact ? do you want him to have contact ?

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😉 THANKS FOR REPLY,
despite i went via csa i'm not receiving any payments, i think, when he left work or made himself to be sacked, he hasn't started a registered job...or i don't know,
but i think you might be right, when he had told me he is divorced for many years and had a snipp....not nececcessarily it must be true - definitely not with the snipp 😉
and he is 60. i'm 35.
but i really don't want our son to be fatherless...i have enough energy and finance to support him in every way, and he is the best baby i've ever heard of....but i owe him that.
everyone can make a mistake, his opinion may change if he sees him....but i dont want to just knock on the door and be thrown with little boy...
and regarding the statement - if he didn't go for dna, i think he would just bin it if i print it out and send it via post.
i don't know how to do it. amicable way would be the best, but if he's hiding i cant do much.
and if i go via solicitors...i spend money which i need for a childcare....and without any guarantee of success. even though, what is sucess here?! definitely not his name on BC!! but it might be a start of some relationship between a child and a father.

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Hi Nat, please dont take this the wrong way, but it really sounds like he really really does not want to know. Theres not many men would want a baby at 60,(prob get killed for saying that) and hes not very responsible giving up his job. Nat you cant force him to accept it, even if you got his name on the BC it wont force him to being a Daddy. Maybe he did have the snip and its gone wrong, this is why hes shocked. Are you in touch with any other of his family members, you mentioned a brother ? Nat theres men on hear that would love to see there children and are being denied, but unfortunatly you picked one that doesnt want to.
. Enjoy your little one, maybe make a scrap book, have you photos of his dad, and when he asks when hes older you can show him.

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hmmmm... shame. i'm in contact with dad's brother. he believes what i'm saying (or at least says so) and he's really kind. although never came to visit him or anything like that but at least he's not hiding. his politeness is the only reason why i'm not pushing it harder.
but i really will be in problem when the boy will be 9 months and i would need a nanny for him....my salary won't be suffiecient....so the father - if he's out of work could help to look after him or...i don't know...

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Hi Nat

I would echo the opinions of the others - to be honest, with the lack of regard he is showing, would you really trust him to look after your son if you were out at work? I would keep on at the CSA, if he's out of work, then he will be on benefits in which case he should be paying 5 per week, it's not much, but it's something and it keeps the case going in case he goes back to work.

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Hi Nat

I would echo the opinions of the others - to be honest, with the lack of regard he is showing, would you really trust him to look after your son if you were out at work? I would keep on at the CSA, if he's out of work, then he will be on benefits in which case he should be paying 5 per week, it's not much, but it's something and it keeps the case going in case he goes back to work.

I think you should read the above Nat, you cant use the father of your child to baby sit, he doesnt want to know , get the csa to get the £5 a week off him , I think its going up to £10 soon. Have you invited the brother round and family to meet his nephew.
I think you should just concentrate on you and your little one. Look into different types of child care, get in touch with citizens advise to see what help you can get in respect of benefits, working tax credits, maybe you can work part time for a few years.

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