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Having joined F4J - who I thought were leaders in the field of fighting injustices of family court system and bring about more balanced approach - to get help I contacted them direct on a few issues ie:
Mother financially motivated to prevent staying access as a result of CSA system (i.e. the less overnight she gives the more I pay)
Bumped court hearing as a result of courts mis-management - no costs or redress available
Reducing income by pension contributions – how the CSA decide what is reasonable
Name change application – what are the chances of preventing a double barrelled name change ?
Legal advisor or McKenzie friend ?
Chances of cost award in family law?
MP attention - typical letter following parliament discussion ?
(which I have posted on Dad.info site)
I never got any responses so chased again, then posted on their forum to try to get a response plus complained that they never respond to any contacts made (unlike Dad info which do) - I also noticed that I wasnt alone and there were others before me also positing similar expereineces.
I also then highlighted their forum doesnt have search facilities so you cant actually see if what you want to post has been done before which I thought could be improved for their members - only to find they then removed me from their site and also removed all my posts! whats that all about - there are also other members dissatified - so on my opinion - dont believe the hype,
Its a poor reflection that we as fathers need help in this "closed" and secret (unpublished) family court system goto get help when there is no action save remove you from their website forum, and all your posts without notice or contact being made because they dont like the attention they receive (plus you pay for the membership privillage).
what they are doing is limiting legitimate and resonable freedom of speech and also highlighting their inability to effectively really address the issues of concern voiced by their members.
Poor show...
see below
On xxxxx (removed for confidentiality) wrote:
Dear Sir,
Regrettably I feel the need to inform you that in my opinion very there is little action actually being done to progress the debate about the injustice of the legal system and bring about real changes except some “one of stunts” that really have little press coverage and leave people with a criminal record when they are resorted to make a stand, this used to but now has made little progress on the real issue of reform.
I have tried on several occasions to contact your office (email example below) to suggest both improvements to the forum which is one of the only avenues open to us so that there is a search facility and also that the issues raised are categorised to search on and save repeated questions being asked, (they are not ranked on subject category, nor are ranked against numbers of responses – hence most perhaps topical issues but just in date order so the thread soon gets lost, – nor does it show the number of views or even the number of people logged into the site which in my view is pretty poor structure).
I have resorted to the fact that no-one really works for fathers 4 justice and takes an active part in reading or really responding to the issues raised by your members and so do many other people who are your members (See noted on your forum) , in the system of the family courts we often have no – one else to turn to – having also posted some questions as below there is also very little activity on the site either which is disappointing. I thought you were the leaders in this field?.
As I said there are also other members who have also voiced their similar opinions on your forum site and what they are really getting from our subscriptions for? Review “does anyone work at fathers for justice” on the forum
Can you pleased take an active part in your members concerns and please take some action?
I also wondered if you can read my note below and reply dating back to July 2013 – if this is of any interest please point me in the direction of someone who can help.
I am trying to bring about change and don’t want to have to point issues out to the people I am turning to for help.
A Lonely father
xxxx
From: Fathers 4 Justice [mailto:xxxxxx.org]
Sent: xxxxxxxxxxxx
To: xxxxx (removed for confidentiality)
Subject: Re: forum - questions -chase
Dear Sir
As has been previously explained to you, the idea of the Forum is that participants help each other, with the support of the forum moderators, as the only way we find out about what is happening in courts and the various ways Judges are dealing with specific issues is through others talking about how their issues were dealt with.
The Forum is not the place to raise personal issues with F4J about the campaign.
With regards to the F4J Campaign, which we note you have repeatedly complained about on the forum, we think the remit of the campaign group and the action we take on a regular basis are explained very clearly on our website.
We have noted your comments over members voicing concern on the forum but having viewed the content of the forum it appears that the only person raising this issue is yourself and you have made a noteable number of posts in the 24 hours in order to try and provoke others into agreeing with you and to claim that the moderator is not responding to posts.
It is with regret that we have decided that the Forum is probably not what you are looking for and have therefore terminated your membership and refunded your money.
Kind regards
F4J Office
you make your own mind up - ! 🙁
You might be better joining Families Need Fathers, they have branches across the country, have meetings once or twice a month and access to legal advice and Mckenzie Friends. F4J are more of a direct action group and the flavour of the group is to turn up at prearranged venues and demonstrate.
I paid for membership to F4J just over a year ago and had issues with them. They announced that they were changing their forum to a different one in April and that everyone would be contacted about getting onto the new site. I didn't hear from them, so asked when I would get access but they told me they were busy and would get to me in due course. My membership ran out in August and I never got moved to the new forum. Would never join them again. Find this forum to be much more friendlier and get more useful information from here.
I was a member of F4J for about 6 weeks... On till I cancelled the membership myself... because I told them straight that their advice is amateurish... and they barred me from the forum. I was so disappointed with the advice they given me it didn't seem professional at all plus there was a few week gaps in their replies. Very poor service.
It may not sound like a great deal but it makes you wonder when we have fantastic sites like this one where advice is free and members work closely to try and make sense of issues.
As someone who didnt feel like investing at the time I cannot comment about this site but all I can say is I am delighted with this one 🙂
BW
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