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My statement is about 16 pages and I have then done a welfare checklist of about 12 pages meaning the whole thing is nearly 30 pages. Will this be read. Is it better to be water tight or succint?

BW


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...its just too long boycie. you need to trim it right down.


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You could trim it down to the essentials and add additional information - that way the information is say, on the first couple of pages, but the rest is available. You do need to ask yourself about each part - "is this really relevant to what I want to achieve" - if not, get rid of it.


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Thank you both.....

My wifes is the same length but her supporting stuff adds another 150 pages worth....

suspect they both wont be read properly then?


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I think actds suggestion is a good one....a brief précis condensed and attached to the front of the statement gives the judge a good grounding of the big picture and then he can leaf through the rest but still understand the basis of your arguemenf.


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My statement to court was 14 pages all of which i felt were relevant to my getting my story across as it was with my ex and her controlling etc.... my solicitor at the time thought to long but agreed most was relevant information/evidence to show the whole picture of my ex before, during and after we split.
i also added a few pages of photos showing my child having fun doing things etc... on days we'd spent where the ex had claimed he'd gone back saying he'd not had fun or wasn't enjoying his time with me.

As Actd and NJ say you need to be concise and to the point but if you feel its relevant and it ends up being 10+ pages then so be it.

if you end up having to go through a Finding of Fact the paperwork will potentially be 10x that!


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Darn, thats not what I want to hear 🙂 but thank you......

I suspect it will go to this as she is prepared to lie the whole way.

She has already appended her evidence amounting to 150 pages.

Mine countering all she she states is 100.

1) Is there any point including a 30 page checklist.....or should I leave that to CAFCASS (already expressed biased towards the mum, without meeting as she spoke to her already)
2) After all this what would a fact finding mission add to all the evidence we include?

I summarised it on the first page....basically she opens with whilst I am a nasty, malicous etc etc this has all been aimed at her, and she is keen to promote contact with the kids........job done really....except she wont let me have more than 6 hours contact a week.....lol

BW


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...I got told about a 300 page statement today....so your 30 pager is a mere snippet in comparison!


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I found when I read my ex’s statement that I was able to prove almost each point as false and lies. My ex although having a Law Degree seems to think she can say things and write things without having proof to support her.

I being quite scared of her earlier verbal threats - to do and say anything she likes and bankrupt me if I go down the legal route – decided to keep texts just in case. Plenty of horrible nasty comments on text and emails have been invaluable to my defences of her allegations.

If you’ve not already started doing so….keep and make copies of every message, email, letters….make notes in chronological order of any events where she has been abusive (verbally-physically). All this will help you to show later in court how she has been with you and how she is preventing contact extending.

If your ex decides to play fair and see the kids are what really matters in this then you’ll not need any of that but if not then at least you’re starting to be prepared for a battle!


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Thank you both....I have decided I will probably keep with the mini-thesis because I need to refute every allegation and demonstrate the lengths she is prepared to take to make fictitious allegations and make access to the children difficult.

I also feel if I do not refute them they go on record undefended and cant let her do this.

Unfortunately she has deleted all her nasty texts off my phone. I believe she has done herself no favours emailing any emails I had on my inbox to herself to generate evidence rather than realise how controlling she was.

I am gonna issue it today to keep up somewhat with the court schedule. Will be relieved as its eating so much of my time

BW

Boyce


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I can understand how you feel, if allegations are made not refuting them or offering a defence could be seen as acceptance.


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I have frequently typed statements 15 pages or more! LOL! All I can say is thank heavens for computers.. imagine when I had to do that in the days of typewriters!!

As long as your Statement is concise Boycie, that you have answered her statements, raised the relevant elements of your own, but most of all....do not ramble! LOL!! I will happily take a look at it if you want.


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