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[Solved] PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY AND CONTACT ORDERS


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Would you please be so kind as to advise me on whether i need a parental rights order in addition to my contact order?
I am not a citizen of the UK but have been given leave to remain so i can be near my daughters. I have an exceedingly good CAFCASS report in my favor as well that that refutes all allegations she made about me in the initial stages when she took my girls from me.
When this case first commenced, i was issued with an emergency steps order and a prohibited steps order. I was supposedly a flight risk, not a national of a country that was part of the Hague Convention, was mentally unstable, depressed etc etc. Both these orders have been done away after over a year and a half - i am now informed though that in order to initiate such orders through a judge, one must provide some proof - I know of none that they have/had
She and her family are from around this area and the fact that her elder sister is a senior social worker in Child services does nothing to help my state of mind.
In the initial stages of their allegations, they tried to have her sister "monitor" my supervised visits with my daughters however i refused.
I am registered with the local health center as my children s biological father, I also have a definitive contact order which allows me regular contact with my daughters. I am however having a lot of trouble with my ex when it comes to getting information on my children. Consequentially, i wrote off to a number of departments in the Lancashire county to gather information on where it would be that my daughters would commence main stream schooling. I was lucky and one of the school bursars i had sent out a general email to, responded stating that my girls were registered. When i asked when the information was provided, i was fobbed off and told that because school commenced in September this year it was immaterial.
I had also, in the interim written off to Data Protection ( who seem to be a night mare to deal with-just my personal opinion).I am still chasing them for information and its been well over a month now . Its not that i did not try and speak to my ex about this and other matters. I even have copies of letters that my solicitor sent out to hers - No response
My latest incident with the ex was last week when i went to my girls school to pick up their "school Learning Journals". I had made an appointment with them prior to the week end. because their "contract is with my ex " as they put it, thy informed her of my visit. When i arrived at the stipulated time that was allotted to me by the school, the ex and her partner were parked outside waiting for me. They then drove off, made a few rude gestures on the way out etc...not a problem.
I collected the journals, saw my girls for 5 mins and left immediately after.
About an hour or so later, the police called me stating that my ex had complained that i had breached my contact order and that the school was too intimidated by me to say no to me. The officer said he wanted to see me - that he was in the area as he pt it and i agreed to see him at my house.
He arrived, asked me for my side of the story, basically told me what she had said about me, stated that he did not see a breach of order and left soon after. I followed this up with a telephone call to the Lancashire police dept, asked to speak to him and he returned my call about an hour later. I requested for a complaint number which he gave me and asked what the status of the complaint was - he told me that the file had been closed on the incident.

Any advice on the matter is highly appreciated - i have the notion that perhaps i am being set up here because these "incidents" with the ex, her partner and her mother are starting to escalate.

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Hi deano

Are you names as the father on the birth certificate? If you are, then you already have PR, and an order wouldn't be required. If not, then I'm surprised that the school would provide you with any information at all unless your ex has consented.

Overall, I would say that you need legal advice -what has your solicitor advised?

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hello we are in the same situation sorry mate...keep figthing for your kids one day....

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I am mentioned on the birth certificates which she tried to get off me initially with threats etc...i was married to her at the time we all arrived here in the UK- she gave birth to our daughters and i am the biological father. when i approached data protection to get this information...it took a long time and numerous emails for them to finally get back to me ( yesterday ) and their reply was pretty much " sorry we cannot help you...the schools are their own database controllers - approach them directly".
Data Protection suggested i write to the school requesting for this information...this is despite me copying them in on the correspondence between the school and myself. Lastly, they gave me the address of their head office to complain to because they took over 40 days to respond
The pre school where my daughters attend is an independent/private body in Penwortham - on the occasions that i have approached them to get information on things like my daughters attendance in school - their standard response is " speak to your wife, our contract is with her"
This private nursery's fees were paid upfront via solicitors account and after my written agreement via solicitors letter. I asked the school recently what monetary reimbursements were made to my ex if any at all - response " speak to your ex, our contract is with her.
Recently i asked the school when my daughters leaving dates were in school ( they commence main stream schooling this September ) - standard response..."speak to your ex our contract is with her"
I look forward to your advice on the subject.
The other thing that bothers me is that my ex's elder sister is a senior social worker in Lancashire county ( child protection services i think)
I do however have a good CAFKAS report which refutes all my ex's allegations and personal attacks.

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Hello
Earlier today, i called the school to check on whether my daughters had attended this morning
I was told by them that i had to speak to their mother because " their contract is with her".

Is this legal.?

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