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(@bobbya)
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Odd question

I have my fact finding hearing sooon, and somehow want to mention that I am now married and my new wife has a son who I have a good, safe relationship with

Where is the best place to mention this?
Also can I take photos with me to show to the Court? although not already submitted

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I am trying to show my ex wife as the liar she is, and have found out that the man she is now married to, when they first starting dating, he had been engaged to someone else 4mths before getting together with my ex-wife ans declaring on court papers that he wanted PR for my son from this point.

Can I use this in Court, do I have to tell the other side about this first? I have pics of the engagement from FB which was public, and was planning to use this in my questioning of her at the fact finding, but do I need to tell the courts first

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(@Ivan Dobski)
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Taking a picture along wont be a bad idea just incase I'd also take a pic of the room/house etc where your son would stay if he comes to visit. I'd think the family pic would show you've moved on with your life and have put your past behind you and are going down the court route for your boy's sake and not out of spite to get back at your Ex.

I'm lost with your last statement though am I right in thinking your EX's man was engaged when he started dating your wife? I don't think it would be wise to use that could be seen as your being creepy by stalking them across the net etc and wouldnt have any relevance to the case I don't think.

ANd he can't request PR you have to agree to it and they would have to take it to court. I asked the question with Coram yesterday regarding new partner and PR etc might be worth having an online chat with them it's free

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My son wont be coming to stay initially, havent seen him EVER thanks to that horrible woman, so asking for short supervised visits to build it up
But yeas will defo take some pics of my family life now aswell then

the second bit, basically my ex wife is trying to make out im a monster, yet within 12 months of suffering severe DV was able to move on and start dating someone lets say he called X
Now X when he started dating my ex wife had only just been aged to someone else called Paula 4mths prior.
He has applied for PR only since I brough the Contact Order to court and as such I have refused to agree on the basis he isn't doing it for my sons interest but only in retaliation .

What I hoped to do was show the court, well if she suffered so badly how could she move on so quickly within 12mths and during that time suffered depression

Then that it seems strange that she should after suffering DV, trust a man around her and her son who had only just been engaged to someone else 4mths prior

To show them as liars or exaggeraters of the truth
she says he wanted PR for my son since they started dating,!! So someone who was ready to commit to another woman 4mths earlier, now knows 100% he wants to be with the mother of my son for the rest of his life and PR for that child

Its to try and show her character

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My ex did exactly the same pal!!
No DV on my part…never has been…….however if you read her statements and allegations I’d be classed as a real b*stard !!! luckily I’ve managed to prove without doubt that I wasn’t using the very same people who she lied to, to make me look the nasty b*stard!!!

I sometimes wish I was just so she knows what a real b*stard was!!! And I’d have deserved the lies, mental abuse and harassment.

Anyway……within 8-9mths of me leaving her (end of 2009) she had a new fella….within 6-5mth (2010) she moved him in to the house I left but still had a mortgage on….she married him at the end of 2011…and had his child 9mth later!!!
And this is a woman who claimed was so scared of me because of what I had done to her and the threats, abuse and harassment I had given her!!!! Again all un-true and were proven!!!!

These people are liars and I would say for certain that they are using the next guy who comes along to show the outside world that they are the victim and you are the b*stard!!!

Its all a show to these ex’s they show the world one side to make them look good….and make you out to be monsters like Charles Manson or Ian Brady.

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Similar to me Ex had been seeing someone behind my back then claimed she wanted time on her own think she was living with new partner within weeks of seperation and lied that she was living on her own she was shacked and banged up within 6 months of seperation even tried blaming miscarriage on me due to stress of divorce highighed that the divorce was her idea and only had herself to blame and I wasnt loosing any sleep over it and that I wouldnt have have any guilty concence

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What sort of things did you ask to prove her statements were untrue?

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all i can say about mine is that my ex made a few rather stupid allegations and used the police to try and back her up......but the police actually saw what she was up to......although i received a verbal harassment warning on a couple of occasions i was able to prove to the police that i wasn't!
i'd kept every text message/ email....made notes about events and arguments in a diary....all these were shown to the police....they made note of them in their reports and at how unreasonable my ex was coming across!
these reports and police officer note book notes from the incidents when my ex got them involved all made it clear that i was in no way harassing....the judge and the courts saw this....her legal team were not impressed that she'd not realised i'd be able to prove her a liar!!!

so.......make notes/keep records......save every abusive text or email....but make sure you save your replies or starting messages etc... they have to be shown so that the judge can see its a conversation not just so the context of things are able to be seen.

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my ex is starting to paint a picture, really hope it doesn't get as bad as yours. I have all txts and emails. in hard copy. good that we don't actually speak. lol

all we want is to see our kids pity them twisted women cant see that

andy

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Thats all i've wanted from the day i started this - what now has become a war rather than a battle!

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interesting, you say you had copies of the police notebooks... the disclosure report we got from the police did not include this.
I did report my ex to the police for harrassment etc and false allegations however my local police unfortunately still took her side, even when on one occassion she bit me !! I reported this to the police and still they took no action.!!!
At the time I didn't contest this further with the police as I didn't think I could do anything to get them to see the truth, I had no txts or emails etc just her word against mine.
My only saving grace is the police didn't prosecute or even issue a warning as there was insufficient evidence

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I was using a solicitor back when I needed the police disclosure….the courts ordered the police disclosure, one particular event actually p*ssed me off so much that I contacted the officer who attended…..
Basically i needed to collect some things I had stored from the house I owned where my ex was living that I’d moved out of…. …..i was very aware of the lies my ex could make had I turned up without witnesses. So i took a witness and asked the police to attend my house at a set time so that I wasn’t putting myself in a potentially no win situation.
My ex claimed in court that she had called the police to be there and that while I was there that I and my witness were shouting and screaming at her and her mother….and threatening to kick her door down and windows in etc…. and that the officer attending witnessed this!
All lies……..but at the time I had no police disclosure reports so I ended up taking an undertaking to court that I would not go to the house again to collect anything unless I had the police with me and it had been arranged with notice!
Anyway….when I told the officer what my ex had claimed in court the officer said that was not the case! And she had reported it was not the case in their incident log…..the officer also mentioned that she could get me a copy of her note book should I need it…..i’m not 100% certain she was allowed to but I got a scanned copy anyway!
This coupled with the police disclosure all proved my ex a liar and proved me not the harasser she was trying to claim!
The police wouldn’t reverse the verbal warning despite the courts judgement on the evidence….they only said that if that’s what the courts have ruled then that’s it then…..but they still have me on a record somewhere which is what really p*sses me off!!!

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Thanks, well my police disclosure only has the plice call log which is very one sided, even the day when she bit me, they still took her side, but they have written on there that ther was insufficient evidence.

She has claimed in her statements, that I punched her all over, so one of my questions will be "you state that I punched " (now bear in mind im a big guy, 6ft 1" and she is a woman of 5ft 6, can you explain how there was no visible evidence of this and no medical treatment was needed . .i think if I had punched her there would haev been evidence of this

equally she claims one of my sisters kicked her in the stomach whilst pregnant, again she made no trip tot he doctors or hospital!!!!

She has no evidence to proove what she is saying

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My ex claimed I’d punched her in the face!….which I swear on my child’s life that I didn’t! and she finally admitted in the finding of fact hearing ....
the police came….i got arrested and taken to the police station….i was held for over 8hrs and then released under me accepting a caution for actually admitting that I grabbed her by her shoulder to try and stop her taking my child away….that event is actually classed as ABH because I did grab her shoulder but in the whole context of the event is was not violent behaviour as she had claimed! I was actually trying to stop her from taking my child away from me not trying to hit her…..i sometimes wish I had with what she has put me through this last 3yrs….not the right thing to say I know but I’m honest….at least had I then I could see the reasoning for her limiting any contact with my child!

Anyway….on returning back to the house with the police I asked the officer in front of my ex to explain that had I actually punched her in the face as she claimed…then why was there no marks!!! The office asked me where I was going to stay the night…my ex said it was ok and I could still stay with her!! [censored]!! I asked the officer why would someone that I’d allegedly punched in the face want me in the same house!!!

In the police incident log and disclosure the officer actually made note of what I had said to him and noted that there were no marks to her face and what my ex had also said!!! All very damming for her and very good for me I’d later realise!
The finding of fact hearing she actually admitted to court that I hadn’t hit her and tried to claim that she hadn’t told the police that I had….but the courts did explain to her and her solicitor and barrister that’s not what her statement to the police had actually said….. so that was yet more lies!!

The thing with being a liar is that you have to have a good memory! My ex is a liar (proven in court) and I know she will try anything to stop contact…….the courts now know this and hopefully they will do something eventually before she destroys every part of me in my child’s memories!

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Forgot to say………If you have a solicitor ask them to contact the officer who you saw….ask them to ask for a copy of his/her notes written in his/her notebook for the date/event.

If you’re not represented try contacting the officer and asking for the same…….you may get it you may not…..maybe I was lucky.

I am thinking that when this is all sorted out and my ex finally doing as the courts tell her that I will pursue the police caution and the verbal harassment issues further with using my MP as they seem to just ignore my pleas for them to re-look at it and what they can do to my ex for perjury! And harassment of me for the last 3yrs!!! 

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did ask them but they refused saying they have provided all they need to.
I guess as it says there was insufficient evidence this should be enuff.
I too was arrested both times she reported to the police but not even a caution was given.
That should be enuff to show her as a liar, becuas eif there was enuff evidence, then police could proescute me without her statement, even if she withdrew her statatement they still could have, both incidents noted in call log as no injury aswell

I totally understand you point about wishing you had hit your ex, though

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i'd say that sounds good....at least with the no action then you can show the ex used them to intimidate and harass you.

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