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hi to everyone
just had caffcass ring me about report they have asked me to come in this afternoon for interview .what best way to go about it .sorry i know its short notice ,they rang me and i said i had course to do in next 2 weeks so they said can you come in this afternoon.

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Have a look for NannJanes posts on this as she gives some good advice.

Natural, dont criticise your ex but put your concerns across, make notes for discussion prior so you can refer to them.

It may not be good advice but I am going to record my impending visit for reference later just in case I have to refer to it.

Let the forum know how you get on as I am interested due to waiting for one myself.

Dave

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Hi Vinny 🙂

Just be yourself! Stick to the truth and stop and think about your answers before giving them. The measured and reasonable response is best!

They will ask you about the allegations so try not to be defensive or get angry, and as Dave says, don't make derogatory remarks about the mother. Just tell them how sad the allegations have made you feel and that there is no truth in them or any evidence to back them up. You can voice concerns about the mothers behaviour but not in a nasty way. Try and approach the whole interview from the position of what is best for the children....talk about how close your relationship is and also that it is always in the children's best interests to have both parents in their lives. Maybe say that you hope that in the future you can both put everything behind you and work together for the benefit of the children.... These are the kind of things they like to hear!

They will probably ask you if you have any previous convictions. They might ask you about your employment or if Social sServices has been involved in the past.

It's very difficult to second guess the form the interview will take or how long it will last, or what they will ask you....that depends on the thoroughness of the officer that is interviewing you. It is about the children and you as a father, so ask yourself if you were compiling a report, what would you ask!

It might be handy to take some notes of the things you would like covered, just a list of bullet points starting with what's most important to you.

I don't know if its a good idea to try and record the interview, this might just start the whole interview off on the wrong footing. It promotes an atmosphere of mistrust in my opinion. They may not allow it anyway.

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Thanks NannyJane....recording just shows my level of mistrust.

I wouldnt let them know its being recorded either.

Dave

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I see :whistle: ....don't get caught then Dave!

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hi went to caffcass offices to speak to them and the way it went felt like she believed nothing i was saying they will come out to the ex place and my place to see us with the kids i guess
surely you would of though with all my character witness from schools after school clubs the women would took notice but when i tryed showing them to her she was not really interested

all the time my ex was saying i was so violent so for her own sake she was saying i had to meet her at her place of work with all the cameras now she has changed her mind and i can pick them up at the house strange and she allowed me extra hr or 2 (if i was so violent for the last 20yrs why would she change her mind(still a pity she cant tell the truth all shes done is lie)
my legal aid has changed they up it from £1350 to £2000 and my solicitor have said she try againwhen it runs out but it all depends on what the report 7 says
so i think im stuffed as caffcass officer seem totally on the women side

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I'm sorry to hear this vinny....wait and see what her report says, I know they can seem to be biased in favour of the mother but even when that appears to be the case, the report isn't as bad as imagined.

My other thought is to be very careful about going to her house, she may try to make further allegations against you...the cameras at her place of work served to protect you too. If possible take a third party with you. It might be advisable to call the police and tell them that you are concerned she may make further allegations about you because she has all of a sudden allowed you to her home to pick the children up, even though she is making accusations of violence against you.

Its good news that LA has been increased, lets hope that if needed it will be increased again.

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Hi everyone i have caffcass officier coming tomorrow at my house is there any dos and donts anything i should watch out for thanks again

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I think NJ has covered the points in a previous post - don't think there's a great deal to add to that. Just be yourself, think where your priorities are and don't put your ex down (but do state facts where necessary).

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hi eveyone caffcass come round and it went pretty bad she said she understands if my ex would lie but never in 30 yrs she has worked there has a daughter lied aswell (she is 19 but a very inmature one and has been totally on her mother side from day one)this is what she said the officer.Also the the ex also told the caffcass officer that i was always controlling never allowed her a bank account(the truth is my ex could not get one and got refuse on many ocassions and when she finally got one when we split up then the bank manager had to go though hoops just to get her one and i had to say at the time that we were still a couple) i told the officer to check with the bank manager and check previous times she tryed but the officer was not interested also i had all her documents she has sent in the last 10 mths 2 feet away from me and i asked the officer to read them to show her story changing from first letter to last letters but again she was not interested.
the officer saw my youngest daughter the other day not at school but at there offices with my ex in same building which i though was unfair.now my ex had great glee in telling me the officer already told her i dont stand a chance.

sorry again about spelling grammar thanks feel like [censored] again
ps also they are coming round next week to see me interact with my kids

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If the CAFCASS officer was not prepared to check your story of events i.e. bank account, your evidence in letters etc… from you ex, changing story etc… then I would report her to the CAFCASS management for not being impartial and not taking your version and evidence in to account.

Ask them to re-visit you with a view to reviewing the evidence you have to prove you ex is not being honest with them and tell them if they won’t then you will take it further.

Write to your MP asking for their help.

It may work…it may not….CAFCASS don’t take criticism to well by what I’ve read here a few times

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I have no idea why cafcass would be confusing the issue of money and child contact. Two separate issues. Surely the issue is how you are with your children and a risk assessment based on the allegations?

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Rather than confusing the issue are they latching onto the belief that this is evidence of controling and abusive behaviour by not allowing the partner to have control over money?

Regards,

Dave

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hi eveyone caffcass come round and it went pretty bad she said she understands if my ex would lie but never in 30 yrs she has worked there has a daughter lied aswell (she is 19 but a very inmature one and has been totally on her mother side from day one)this is what she said the officer.Also the the ex also told the caffcass officer that i was always controlling never allowed her a bank account(the truth is my ex could not get one and got refuse on many ocassions and when she finally got one when we split up then the bank manager had to go though hoops just to get her one and i had to say at the time that we were still a couple) i told the officer to check with the bank manager and check previous times she tryed but the officer was not interested also i had all her documents she has sent in the last 10 mths 2 feet away from me and i asked the officer to read them to show her story changing from first letter to last letters but again she was not interested.
the officer saw my youngest daughter the other day not at school but at there offices with my ex in same building which i though was unfair.now my ex had great glee in telling me the officer already told her i dont stand a chance.

sorry again about spelling grammar thanks feel like [censored] again.
ps also they are coming round next week to see me interact with my kids

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How did the meeting go with the kids?

I can see that you have reposted the above post from 3 weeks ago....I assume because you would like opinions. It's very difficult to know what to say about it... I disagree that it's unheard of for a daughter to lie to back up her mother....children get coached to lie and I have had experience of this myself. It is however very damaging, there's no disputing that.

I think if you have documents that prove she is lying then you need to file them with the court and send copies to her solicitor.

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hi to everyone had caffcass officer ring me up about report could of not gone worse
she thinks kids should not live wth me nor overnight contact
i only have the youngest few hrs week
i also attended angry mangement course
now the 12 yr old who wanted to live with me have now said she saw me being violent to the ex

ive said to the officer i was the main parent carer for the last 10 yrs made no affect ive said if i was violent to my ex and at one point had to pick up my kids from here place of work why now is she now allowing me to pick them from hse
cant believe they believed everthing the ex has said and the ex have now even coxed the kids
the caffcass officer have said why would the kids lie ive said because the ex has cox them which she replyed that does not happen
sorry about grammar feel like [censored] at moment cant just take it in one year ago i was doing everthing with them now i get dictate when i see them would not be so bad if the ex was a good parent when we were to gether but she did nowt (she went to 12yr old first parent evening the other day ) probaly just to prove something pity about the pervious 20 times 🙁

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Heya Vinny,

on what basis does she feel that the kids should not have overnight contact?

If she has not done a thorough investigation you can highlight your concerns to her manager.

I would also say dont get sucked in too much by CAFCASS. Ultimately it will be a judge making a decision - clearly they lean a lot of their weight towards CAFCASS but they may not completely do so.....particularly if you raise your concerns early.

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Hi had report back very damming my solicitor. Says it does not look good but the officer have took everything the ex has said as truth so she said she should of not done that.
But only problems now all my kids have said damming reports on me
Ie 14 year old have said mum did go to parent s evening and do all the housework cleaning in reality I did housework etc and parents evening I have letter from school adminstor saying it was me
19 year old have said I have assaulted her but she did not report it for 2mths because she did not know she could(strange that she reported less than 2 weeks later after her mum received my first solicitor letter also. About one week before my ex received. First solicitor letter 19 year old did want to chat to me to sort things out but it was late at night on a text I said yes but face to face we never got round to it but after the ex

received the first letter 19 year old wants nothing to do with me(truth is we did have argument but that was it
.the19 year old also suggest to the officer idont have overnight contact because of my violence

My solicitor have said when I go to court insept I could contest
Strange again that overnight contact was fine before I got solicitor involved
The12 yr old who wanted to live with me now does not know now and so say saw me attack her mum (still have texts her pleading with me to live with me
All this seems strange as all this has happen since I took her tocourt

My solicitor have said when we go to court second time I can contest the report which I plan to do
Only snag is because of damming report after this second hearing she says the legal will probably stop
And they would not renew it for the final hearing so I might have to rep my self

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