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[Solved] Child Arrangement, Prohibited Steps Order and NMO on False Allegations

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Bill337
(@bill337)
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the stuff about kids playing 18 rated games is quite petty in grand scale of things. I was guilty of letting kids play an 18 rated game, because horse riding is fun 🙂 ex, Court/Cafcass moaned about that. I said fine, kids will no longer play that game.

as daddyup listed, I would go with option 2. It would be the quickest route. You could seek legal advice on this. They will probably say as everything has gone against you, unfortunately you now have to jump through hoops to be with your children again. Court will not accept any appeals because you are unhappy with their decision.

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Posted : 28/05/2021 11:06 pm
Daddyup
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Some final points, no matter what route you go down:

Language - appreciate you are saying this on the forum but learn to mirror the expert's language which is child friendly and review insight, blackmail, violent, Harassment etc these all mean something very specific to the experts.

Controlling and Coercive Behaviour - look up the definition of this, the research behind this, the legislation. Its not just being violent, some of the examples presented in the report are examples of this and you will need to evidence to refute.

Co-parenting - in one of your previous posts you mentioned that you cannot co parent with the mother. If that is the case then even if you succeed on all aspects then you will still find contact restricted as if you cannot co parent in a child focused manner then the courts will find it difficult to grant any meaningful access. Imagine if your child has a fever and you do the right thing and get them checked by Dr who advises to observe for 48 hours (maybe give meds etc). If you have to return child to mother during this time and do not effectively communicate what happened, the advice given and the need to observe for 48 hours (even in a contact handover book) then the court will think it is not in the childs best interest for you to have any direct contact.

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Posted : 28/05/2021 11:24 pm
Yoda
 Yoda
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Hi, I've just spent a long time reading through your thread and have deleted quite a few of your posts that contain a lot of detailed information. 

Proceedings are confidential and you could get in a lot of trouble for sharing that information. 

I think you might need to take a step back, check your language and try to take on board some of the very good advice you have been given here. 

Best of luck 

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Posted : 31/05/2021 9:38 am
liarliarpantsonfire
(@liarliarpantsonfire)
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Thanks for removing it, I will re-add it with the names removed.

 

I feel this is were fathers are getting stung, you have the solicitors who see these files day in day out and can work out what to do. 

to the average dad going in blind with no finance available other then the internet, it is best that it gets published for those fighting false allegations and see what courts are really like.

 

I have no intention of being blackmailed into doing the course and will continue to fight this NMO appeal. You have seen what they have said about the dog and I wouldnt be surprised if they got a non molestion order on the dog the way things are going.

 

 

 

 

 

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Topic starter Posted : 31/05/2021 11:21 am
warwickshire1
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I find the family courts generally fair. Yes at start they can appear biased and on mums side , but this is due to the fact they have to act on the err of caution normally due to concerns and issues raised. If you are polite,child focused and patient and respectful then in end family courts do end up helping a lot of dads who otherwise wouldnt be seeing their children unless an order was made in interests of children.

 

i wouldnt be appealing as it is going to cost you a lot of money and get you nowhere. Once a decision has been made it  is nearly always final unless there are serious errors been made . Unfortuantely find a fact hearings can sometimes leave either parent hard done by as its only if it is likely to have happened or not. I find the best way to get anywhere in court quicker is let other side raise all the allegations and not to counter back , but fully focus on what child arrangements you wish to end up with and how to see your children as quick as possible.

Hope you change your mind and take the first steps to hopefully seeing your kids again

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Posted : 01/06/2021 8:54 am
Daddyup
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The other thing to remember is that challenging is the option that will take the longest due to appeals, evidential requirements, delays and backlogs at court etc.. Even if you do win, because you won't have seen the kids for 6 to 12 months, the courts will say you have to build up contact which again will take you much longer. It could be 12 to 18 months before you even start to have supervised contact. If you lose on appeal then it will be even longer.

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Posted : 01/06/2021 9:50 am
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