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Vik2001
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hi

i had a section 7 being prepared, with a final hearing being scheduled for Septmember.  But what cafcass has said there is hostility and as i want shared residency/access, that they sit down with me and the ex and sort out resolutions and see if we can work out how the parenting will work. Kind of like mediation but with cafcass there.

What this will mean she said the final hearing wil be pushed back for at least another 7 months, so next year.  More than likely the ex will refuse this as she also wants more of the finances, and doesnt want me having shared access so it dont impact her financial claims.

I dont mind sitting down with cafcass and ex, but i dont want the court dates pushed back, as its been over 1 year for me to get to this stage, so what do i do?  I can refuse this as i dont want the court date being pushed back, but if i do could cafcass go against me in their report.

what do i do?  i have done various course and the parenting course.  the ex is hostile towards me, and i always try my best, i explained this to cafcass.  the ex put me through a fact finding which was disproven.  i never been against her, and always kept it child focussed, so i dont know why cafcass say there is hostility, as its not from my part.  i cant help if it from mother though.

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Topic starter Posted : 23/06/2021 12:58 pm
robert123
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This is my personal opinion, if Cafcass think there is hostility between parents this will negatively impact the level of access you will receive. When you do dropoffs, assuming you have the kids currently, do parents talk/communicate?  if not cafcass will look at this, do you make effort to communicate with mother even if she doesnt?  if not then you have hostility also, and cafcass will take all this into account. Hence why they proposed this level of mediation first.

If you dont sit down and talk with cafcass and your ex wife as they seem to be proposing, this will also negatively impact you as it shows hostility from your end.   you should say yes to it, and play the long game, even if it means your court date is delayed for 1 year!!!  its probably hard for you to do, but think of end game.

If cafcass make a recommendation that there is hostility to the courts, they may side with one parent to have more acccess, most likely the mother, so all your progress will be hindered.

I dont know what other members think of this, but whats the harm if your court date is delayed by a few months, if it puts you in a better running position.

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Posted : 23/06/2021 1:37 pm

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Bill337
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hi,

if I was in your situation I would not be keen on final hearing being pushed back several months. usually if there is lot of hostility between parents, then court use that as excuse to not give a 50/50 arrangement, because they would think the hostility will affect the children. also if your not in direct contact with your ex to make arrangements, then that's another negative. you could ask cafcass you need their help to resolve this ASAP. if hearing will be pushed back by months, what kind of child arrangement will you have in the interim?

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Posted : 23/06/2021 2:35 pm
Vik2001
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@bill337

thanks for reply.  yes i dont personally want the hearing pushed back, and theres always the risk that mediation with cafcass and the ex -wont agree to me having any decent access which is already apparent.

what is interesting is that cafcass wants to help us both sit down and work out a plan.  so this tells me possibly they want to help give me the level of access i want, because they see no reason i cant have it.  But its the ex wife that is being very hostile.  otherwise why would cafcass even recommend this to both of us, if they was against me they could have just written the section 7 and moved on.

At the moment, i got the kids every saturday, then every other weekend both sat and sun.  but with no overnight stays, as the ex wouldnt allow it.

my solicitor advised that i shouldnt move my final hearing back any further also, just for mediation with cafcass and the ex ; unless the hearing was pushed back only a month or so.  but the reality is that i probably wouldnt get any dates till next year mar/april.

so should i tell cafcass im happy to sit down with them and ex, but as long as the hearing isnt pushed back?

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Topic starter Posted : 24/06/2021 6:47 am

Wiggo78
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I am going through a similar situation, and I would do as your Solicitor advises. Do not push back the hearing, because at least you then have that forum and date with the Judge to either side with CAFCASS or at least push them to reach resolution quicker. We all know CAFCASS are a shower of S***, but do not let them dictate your court dates. The system is woeful at the moment and it may mean an even longer delay like another year.

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Posted : 24/06/2021 8:43 am
Daddyup
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Hi vik

I'd do as your solicitor advises. However, make it clear to CAFCASS that you do agree with them that it would be beneficial to work with them as they suggest but that you feel the delays to court hearing and ultimately the impact on the kids outweighs the risk of the hostility (I'm sure your solicitor can advise on the wording). Also make it clear that you are happy to look at other interim suggestions that they may have to reduce hostility such as the use of a mediator, communicating via a third party, going on a separated parents course etc or for CAFCASS to speed up their availability to support to avoid delaying the hearing. Making sure all of this is on record in writing is something to present at court should CAFCASS try to focus on this point and restrict access.

 

All the best.. 

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Posted : 24/06/2021 8:50 am

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Bill337
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@Vik2001 I went to court for the same reason. was having kids on saturdays. but overnights not allowed. Cafcass in my case were very helpful, they told court that the order needs to be as specific as possible. you could tell cafcass/court that you need their help to resolve this asap, as you feel if final hearing is pushed back, there is high chance nothing will change and you will not get any overnights and just have to wait for next hearing. you could propose that you want overnights starting from this summer holiday, maybe gradually, like 1 overnight, every weekend or every other weekend.

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Posted : 24/06/2021 9:15 am
Vik2001
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@Daddyup

great advice, i will take this on board.

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Topic starter Posted : 24/06/2021 9:34 am

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Vik2001
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the mother was making allegations against me to cafcass.  she also sent cafcass all the allegations and bundle of the fact finding against me.   however the fact finding was dropped against me and nothing proven.  

is it not cheeky that my ex and her solictor sent cafcass the fact finding bundle even when no charges were found of any sort against me, could this influence cafcass against me.  the court order did say however cafcass are to proceed to doing a section 7 on the basis no facts were found.

cafcass also send theres alot of hostility and they want us to attend some mediation course, which i replied i would love to do but i cant delay any of the court dates book.  however we could run the mediation before, during or after the court dates.

what do i do if my ex has influenced cafcass with all the allegations and they write against me?

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Topic starter Posted : 25/06/2021 1:10 pm
Bill337
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cafcass will interview you as part of section 7 report. would recommend you go to their website and complete parenting plan.  mention to them and they will likely ask to see it. cafcass get a copy of court order etc so them receiving bundle would not be a big deal. I sent cafcass my position statement, to help them see exactly what kind of arrangements I was seeking. They also told me usually there is a delay in them getting court order paperwork so happy that I sent it to them early.

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Posted : 25/06/2021 7:19 pm

Vik2001
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So if I got no finding of facts against me, and I move closer to where my kids are. What level of access can I get. Could I get close to 50/50?

Bear in mind my wife is very hostile towards me where I have none towards her. She's fighting that I have little or no access to the kids. She is even telling cafcass that I'm a bad person etc, where I have kept it child focused. 

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Topic starter Posted : 26/06/2021 10:00 am
Bill337
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if fact finding goes in your favour, then in theory you should have much easier time in court. moving closer to your kids would mean your able to do school runs so possible for you to get more time with your kids like, mid-week overnights or extended weekends etc. it's possible to get close to 50/50, if your work is flexible enough.

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Posted : 26/06/2021 4:00 pm

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